Friday, September 07, 2007
Daily Douchebag: Shelley Lubben
Porn name: Roxy
DOB: May 18, 1968
Occupation: ex-porn star, Jesus freak, anti-porn crusader, hypocritical two-faced cuntrag
Hometown: Pasadena, California
Current residence: Bakersfield, California (after finding God in Tacoma, Washington)
Douchebaggery: After a miserable childhood featuring negligent, emotionally absent parents and sexual abuse, Shelley Lubben grew up to be a stripper, prostitute, and star of such films
as Used and Abused 2, Roxy's Gangbang Fantasy, and Cumm Brothers 3: The Boys Go to Traffic School. She developed a drug and alcohol addiction, attempted suicide, took anti-depressants by the cartload, and got herpes and cervical cancer. Up until this point, Shelley Lubben seems like a sad, cautionary tale to inspire pity and sympathetic wishes that she might one day get her life together. Well, be careful what you wish for, because Shelley Lubben found Jesus and now won't shut the fuck up about it.
I first found Shelley Lubben via this Christian website called LiveOffensively, which sells obnoxious imperative t-shirts to kids that say "Abortion is Mean" and "Pornography is for Posers." Apparently she and her meth-addict husband stumbled into Champions Center church in Tacoma, formed a personal relationship with the big JC, got cleaned up, and started getting her judgmental crusader on! Shelley's new mission in life is to blame porn for all her problems (because it would be too obvious just to blame severe childhood trauma, right?) and to wage war against pornography on behalf of the Lord JEE-saws Chrasst. As she puts it on her website's mission statement:
"We are committed to helping improve the lives of persons struggling with pornography addiction, sexual abuse, sex industry exploitation and emotional and mental poor health. We press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Shelley will use her past experience and present knowledge to help people transform their lives by providing powerful resources and tools to equip people to live Champion lives. www.shelleylubben.com is also on a hardcore mission to smash the illusion of pornography and tell the world the awesome truth about God’s amazing love for every individual person."According to Shelley, this means hooking up people who wish to forsake porn (being in it or just watching and enjoying it AKA "porn addiction") with some Bible know-how and some good old-fashioned Christian compassion. It also means crusading hard against all the evils in porn, including STDs, drugs, objectification and victimization of women, abuse, etc.
Shelley's crusade got some media attention and she got a few convert porn stars to exploit the shit out of as "success stories," and MTV decided to make a documentary about her ministry. Shelley decided to approach a porn star named Taryn Thomas, who gained a bunch of weight, left porn, kicked her coke habit, and is now planning a triumphant return to fucking on camera. Fortunately, one of my regular porn gossip blogs (yes, I read porn gossip blogs) faithfully reproduced their correspondence in full:
Hi Taryn,This e-mail must have been unsolicited, because Taryn responded with a polite but unmistakable "thanks but no thanks," as well as some her own thoughts about her experiences in the porn industry.
My name is Shelley Lubben and I am a former porn actress who reaches out to girls in the porn and sex industry the past three years.
Recently, MTV Producers approached me and asked me if they could film my current work of helping girls out of the porn industry.
If you visit my (MySpace) profile you will see I help girls leave the porn industry and assist them as they rebuild their lives after porn. The reason this appealed to me is because I could help many MORE girls if my work was filmed on TV. I want to start a foundation to help all girls in the sex industry once the TV show is up and running.
I looked at your profile and thought I would ask you if you are interested in being filmed as well. They are looking for girls who want to leave a life of porn and make a better life for themselves. They want to follow the girl’s story so you would be in a main role on the show. They will be offering pay as well you will be on a mainstream TV series and get much exposure and many better opportunities than what porn could ever offer you.
My heart is to see girls escape porn and live the lives they were meant to live. All porn offers is pressure to do sex acts, hooking, drugs, abusive men, risking your life everyday to catch sexual transmitted diseases and cervical cancer and possibly miscarriages. I personally caught Herpes a non-curable disease, have had three miscarriages, cervical cancer and an ectopic pregnancy. Yes porn and prostitution ruined my life for many years but I have been able to rebuild my life and now it’s my heart to help other girls.
I absolutely believe you were made for much greater things than porn.
Let me know if you are interested.
And if you are not interested, I wish you all the happiness in the world!
Much love to you,
Shelley
PS: Please check out my profile to get to know me.
Hi Shelley:Apparently, Shelley didn't want to take no for an answer and didn't appreciate having her ministry questioned by some godless coke whore...I mean, beloved child of God. She went straight from believing that Taryn was made for much better things than porn (like real estate, pharmacy teching, and cosmetology, apparently) to calling Taryn a liar and making some statements that sound vaguely like a segue into a blackmail or extortion attempt:
I respect what you are doing, but I feel you are saying things about the porn world that are not entirely true. I don’t know when you were in porn or what happen in your career to make you say these things about the industry. In my time in porn I have never once been to a set where the director has offered me drugs or alcohol. Nor have i ever seen a girl shooting up, smoking crack, sniffing coke, drinking etc on set. And I am sure it does go on but I have never seen it nor do i want to.
Honestly if i did see that on set or if i was offered it i would walk right off set. Simply bc of the fact I am sober now for a year and six months do to a small relapse I had last year after being sober for 4 years. At this time I am making my comeback into porn after taking almost 2 years off and want nothing more to continue with my porn career and be even more successful than before. During my two years off I did not struggle I went to cosmetology school, & real estate school and had a normal job working a pharmacy tech like I did before porn.
Also was able to live comfortably bc of all the money I saved working in porn. Right now I am actually working with a producer (mainstream) to film a documentary on my return to porn and my family in general. I am fortunate to have come from a upper class family, with a good up bringing. I feel the need to tell you all this bc you only seem to want to shed light on the bad things in porn instead of focusing on the bad and good. I think it’s people like you that make out industry look so bad when it’s really not. So I think you should try to shed light on both sides now that’s an idea!
Taryn
Taryn, You are lying. I am being very nice not mentioning things about you publicly because I respect you. But I know quite a bit about you. More than you can imagine. Are you sure you’ve never done drugs on the set? Hmmmmm.To Taryn's credit, she immediately responded in kind by telling Shelley to fuck promptly off:
Shelly,The problem with women like Shelley Lubben is that they come out of the gate with "compassion" and offers of help to "rebuild (porn star) lives." The second that their target offers a differing opinion or challenges their proposals, the true nature of their "love" reveals itself, and it doesn't include wishing one "all the happiness in the world." I don't know what Jesus would do in this scenario, but I believe that he would not choose to demonstrate compassion by responding to challenges with veiled threats of public humiliation, petty personal attacks, or a sickening sense of self-righteousness.
I have never met you in my life nor do I wish to. You emailed me out of the blue. You are now making false statements about me, and have about the industry for sometime. Please do not email me again. I am very happy with my life and career. And will never be apart of your cause. I am for porn 100% till the day I die. Again do NOT email me again.
Thanks Taryn
Shelley Lubben is like the Dolores Umbridge of the Christian anti-porn movement. If you don't read Harry Potter, Dolores Umbridge is this simpering, fussy bureaucrat at the Ministry of Magic who teaches Defense against the Dark Arts in year 5 at Hogwarts. When she arrives on the scene, in spite of her toadlike appearance, she seems to be a prim, particular woman intent on educational reform with a fetish for ornamental cat plates. Quickly, however, she demonstrates her innate evil, punishing students by forcing them to write lines using a quill which etches the words painfully into their skin. She's horribly prejudiced against "half-breeds" and at one point threatens to use the Cruciatus Curse on Harry Potter to extract information from him by torture. Shelley Lubben is the same way, marketing her ministry as a mission of Christian love and compassion, but perfectly comfortable resorting to undisguised cruelty and spite in order to ensure that her interfering worldview remains unimpeached.
As a Christian, I do not appreciate it when people constantly drop the name of MY Savior to justify doing the most un-Christian things imaginable. If Shelley has really read the Bible as closely as she claims, she might remember the parts in the gospels of Mark, Matthew, and John where Jesus tore up the Temple. To paraphrase the Good Book, Jesus got pissed that they were selling cattle and shit in the Temple, and ran around turning over tables, releasing doves, and calling the vendors and Temple dudes hypocrites. As far as I can remember, this is the only time Jesus ever got a little violent, and it was because he was mad that the sanctity of the Temple was being desecrated by swindlers and crooks. I wonder what Jesus would say about bitches like Shelley, who invoke his name and then use and abuse the people they claim to be saving, either by parading them around as success stories or trying to browbeat them into acquiescence by claiming the moral high ground. Shelley apparently thinks this is being a "Champion." I call it being a fucking duplicitous, manipulative, selfish, judgmental bitch whose actions make all of us who actually believe in Jesus to be embarrassed about admitting that.
Shelley seems to think that her connection to the big Savior upstairs is more important than most other Christians, however, because Jesus saw fit to give her a fellow born-again zealot to make babies with, and because he "miraculously" cured her of herpes and depression. If Shelley were Catholic, she'd be two-thirds of the way toward canonization with that kind of miracle track record. As a virologist, I was curious how Shelley knows about the miracle of her herpes cure, which, as she regularly reminds the reader in her website's bio section, is incurable. Apparently she enrolled in some clinical trial and was rejected because they couldn't detect virus in her blood. I hate to shatter some of Shelley's miracle-receiving Christian street cred, but this is because herpes simplex virus, like all herpesviruses, has a latent stage in its replication cycle. That means that between outbreaks (which are known as the lytic stage), the infection is latent and lies dormant in your neurons. Neurons are the cells that make up nerves, and they don't circulate in the blood, so during periods of latency, herpes simplex is undetectable by anything short of a biopsy. That stupid bitch probably didn't even let the tech who told her she was disqualified from the trial based on undetectable viral load explain that she could have an outbreak any time and to keep taking her fucking Valtrex, and just waltzed out of the clinic praising Jesus for curing her dumb slag ass. Don't call it a miracle when it's just biology taking its course, you herpetic skank.
I also don't appreciate being called a "porn addict" because I enjoy porn. I probably watch more porn than many women, but I'm more addicted to blogging than I am to porn. Porn fascinates me, arouses me, entertains me, amuses me, and, along with reality TV, pepperoni pizza, Fantasy Football, my dogs, books about seamen, and Heineken, it is just one aspect of my life that I enjoy and sometimes indulge in. I think that porn is a healthy part of many people's sex lives, and while there are some people who can't control their impulses to watch it, most of us who do consider it one of many pleasant diversions. Of course porn stars are often damaged human beings. Most people would not choose to make their living fucking on camera, putting themselves at risk for injuries or STDs, being ostracized by mainstream society, and called a whore regularly if they had high self-esteem or good job prospects. I'm also sure there are many porn stars who are addicts of one sort or another, victims of abuse, and suffer from mental illness. However, these people were all probably broken before they got into porn. It's kind of Shelley Lubben to offer them a better life if they want it, but it's misplacing blame to say that porn is the reason they are broken. Like Shelley, they were fucked up before porn, and while getting out of porn may help them deal with their personal issues, it's not porn's fault that they are experiencing the sequelae of a traumatic childhood. Becoming a sanctimonious, Bible-thumping Jesus fanatic isn't going to fix them, and it's simplistic and foolish to think that it would.
I hope that Shelley Lubben starts reading her Jesus material a little more closely before demonizing an industry based on her own personal bad experience and projecting her issues in the form of unrelenting judgment onto anyone who crosses her path. She's a fool, and an idiot, and woe betide the misguided and desperate porn star who thinks Shelley will help her become anything but a condemning, unfair, pitiless parrot regurgitating her twisted interpretations of Christian love. I hope the next time I'm home in Tacoma, I run into Shelley Lubben so that I can flash my tits at her and tell her personally what a fucking asshole I think she is. And then I'll pray for her sorry, twisted soul.
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You are a Christian? HAHAHAHA
What kind of fantasy land are you living in where the porn industry is not fueled by coke and booze? EVERYBODY knows that it is.
Would you really wish the life of porn on your mother, sister or best friend? Shut the fuck up you loser. And get your facts straight.
What kind of fantasy land are you living in where the porn industry is not fueled by coke and booze? EVERYBODY knows that it is.
Would you really wish the life of porn on your mother, sister or best friend? Shut the fuck up you loser. And get your facts straight.
# posted by 
: 11/12/2007 3:44 AM
: 11/12/2007 3:44 AM
I think the person who wrote this is addicted to porn. They are under the control of it to the point where they can't accept that porn is dangerous. Shelley is just telling her personal story. If a person does not have the ability to demonstrate respect for others, even though they don't believe in their personal beliefs then they are under the control of whatever controls them -- in this case it is porn.
If a person can get online and call somebody some very horrific names, yet you never even got to know that person, then you ought to analyze your heart.
Porn industry is fueled by Satan. Drugs are just a part of that world. I know plenty of people who were involved in that world...and they were involved in drugs.
But what does that matter for? Why does hatred have to rule the hearts of those who are for porn? This just proves the fruit of what porn spawns ... hate.
So much hate toward another human being...and you claim to watch porn a lot. I'm starting to draw a correlation to watching porn and hate. Just about all of the rapists in jail claim that it started with porn. If porn is such a significant factor to your mental well-being, then why do you demonstrate so much hate?
If a person can get online and call somebody some very horrific names, yet you never even got to know that person, then you ought to analyze your heart.
Porn industry is fueled by Satan. Drugs are just a part of that world. I know plenty of people who were involved in that world...and they were involved in drugs.
But what does that matter for? Why does hatred have to rule the hearts of those who are for porn? This just proves the fruit of what porn spawns ... hate.
So much hate toward another human being...and you claim to watch porn a lot. I'm starting to draw a correlation to watching porn and hate. Just about all of the rapists in jail claim that it started with porn. If porn is such a significant factor to your mental well-being, then why do you demonstrate so much hate?
# posted by : 11/28/2007 2:06 PM
: 11/28/2007 2:06 PM
Whatever the person has who wrote this blog doesn't work for them. If it did, then they wouldn't be so nasty. If porn and hate is what fuels your world Razzy...it's nothing that I would want!
# posted by : 11/28/2007 3:55 PM
: 11/28/2007 3:55 PM
I don't hate Shelley but she is annoying, especially in the fact that she criticizes other fromer sex worker's ministries. She also makes money going to churches and lecturing them on the evils of porn-preaching to the choir. God bless her attention-whoring ass.
# posted by : 12/06/2007 7:52 PM
: 12/06/2007 7:52 PM
I haven't met any "Christians" that flash their tits and then pray. Anyone can write a blog. What have you done to help people? I am just curious.
# posted by : 1/15/2008 4:51 PM
: 1/15/2008 4:51 PM
People have the right to view porn or believe in God. Just as long as one isn't shoving whatever down the other's throat. I'm a Soldier stationed right now here in Kuwait. I served in Somalia and Iraq. I defended people's freedom and pursuit of happiness in the battlefields of Somalia and Iraq. If Shelley is helping people then let her be. But if she's being a Killjoy and trying to tell people how they should live, then she's wrong. If people are attacking Shelley then I'll take a bullet for her. If Shelley is attacking a porn star, or anyone in the porn industry, then I'll take a bullet for that porn star, or whoever. Be glad to live in the U.S.A. where you can believe in what you want to believe in or watch porn. As long as one isn't shoving anything down the other's throat. I'm against child porn and I believe child pornographers and pedophiles should be shot. I've been to countries and am stationed in a country where porn is outlawed. Remember, be glad to live in America where you have alot of Freedom. Don't let Killjoys take it from you. You can be religious or not. Last but not least, please don't forget us Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, Airmen, and Coastguardsmen serving in Afhganistan, Iraq, and Kuwait. My myspace address is jjjaco@myspace.com .
I am quite shocked and surprised at the harsh comments both Christians and non-Christians have made. Where's the agape-love, folks?
# posted by : 1/19/2008 2:57 PM
: 1/19/2008 2:57 PM
All the "Christians" persecuting this woman for saying she's a christian and a porn star remember Mary Magdalene I didn't read any statements where this person judged shelley but shelley did pass judgement and is passing judgement
And to shelley lubben remember the fifth commandment Honor thy Mother and Father
And to shelley lubben remember the fifth commandment Honor thy Mother and Father
# posted by : 3/08/2008 5:04 PM
: 3/08/2008 5:04 PM
Finally, brethren, whatever things are PURE, whatever things are noble, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is anything praiseworthy, meditate on these things..Phil. 4:8
If you know Jesus and listen to His voice.. it will reflect in your life. Everyone uses the "don't judge" thing to justify when they know that what they're doing is hurtful, harmful etc.. sad that so many are in denial about real right and wrong and the obvious consequences.. everything has become "grey". You call yourself a Christian, yet you slander others and use extreme profanity.. time to take an honest look at yourself..
If you know Jesus and listen to His voice.. it will reflect in your life. Everyone uses the "don't judge" thing to justify when they know that what they're doing is hurtful, harmful etc.. sad that so many are in denial about real right and wrong and the obvious consequences.. everything has become "grey". You call yourself a Christian, yet you slander others and use extreme profanity.. time to take an honest look at yourself..
# posted by : 3/26/2008 6:40 PM
: 3/26/2008 6:40 PM
Wow. Interesting post...you're a Christian AND a self-righteous hypocrite. That's quite a combination!
Of course, I'm a recovering hypocrite myself...so I understand where you're coming from.
Why do you feel comfortable criticizing Shelly Lubben for not living up to Jesus' example when your post shows that you're in the same boat?
Don't get me wrong: I'm all about getting the truth out. The problem I see here is that you limit your own effectiveness as a truth-teller when you're so obviously hypocritical in your approach.
Of course, I'm a recovering hypocrite myself...so I understand where you're coming from.
Why do you feel comfortable criticizing Shelly Lubben for not living up to Jesus' example when your post shows that you're in the same boat?
Don't get me wrong: I'm all about getting the truth out. The problem I see here is that you limit your own effectiveness as a truth-teller when you're so obviously hypocritical in your approach.
# posted by : 4/17/2008 11:46 AM
: 4/17/2008 11:46 AM
I personally witnessed the extent that Shelley will go to yesterday. She claims 90% of porn stars are on drugs. She claims 90% have STDs (oppostion brought in proof that these claims were entirely untrue). She claims there is no way a girl can actually be happy in porn or like what they do. She did all of this in front of a tax committee in support of a bill that would effectively kill the adult industry. I think she is just trying to make her job easier. If she takes away the option of doing porn she won't have to spend any time trying to convince girls that they are miserable sinners.
I like to keep my opinions as such; just a statement of "my opinion". Having read thru the blogs here and many others on the subject of porn and its creators, I feel a need to contribute my two cents' worth. We live in a very complex society. I think it is good that porn isn't illegal since I feel we would have a lot more of the illegal type of porn being made. But, at the same time I feel that the people that make it have very serious issues with their own morality and honesty. I can't help but wonder how an attractive, intelligent woman could possibly think it might be worth her future reputation to have herself on camera for the world to see in a porn movie. The same goes for the men. I wonder how these people could grow up in modern society, get an education and then make a graphic sexual display of themselves for some quick cash. I am glad Shelley got a nice life away from porn. I see nothing glamorous, however, about having done porn in the past. And, if I were her, I would have quietly gone about my new life and tried to help my friends too. I saw Shelley on video on u-tube. She said she has three children now. I can't imagine how it would be for a kid in school, growing up and having the knowledge that Mom was a prostitute and porn actress (Shelley states she had been a prostitute on her website). Having the other kids in school know this and calling names and doing the things done in school to anyone who is different is something that is going to happen as it always has. So, how would you feel about Mom, having to grow up with that? I feel Shelley should have given more thought on how her high profile is going to affect them. Even though Porn is not illegal, it is regarded by persons who still have morals as being immoral and sinful. So, in society, people in porn or ex porn people are rejected and shunned. Sure, the porn industry glamorizes them. Sure, the horny guys love the porn chicks. But this is all short-term. I also don't feel that the girls in porn are so much the "victims" they are being portrayed as. What, they are all kidnapped and taken to a set in a blacked-out van and made to do porn? No, they go to the porn studio or they don't. It is their decision to prostitute themselves or not to. Therefore they are responsible for what they make of themselves in life just as I am. Since this is America, I am still allowed to choose the type of people I will have as friends. I choose those who have some self-respect and respect for their family name and go the route of trying to be a decent person. Whether I feel it is right or wrong, the whole of society won't let a person's dark past go. It is something that will follow a person around all their lives - and after. The price of a quick buck is very high. Those who don't consider the consequences of their actions are foolish in the extreme.
# posted by : 7/15/2008 10:33 PM
: 7/15/2008 10:33 PM
Her first e-mail was respectful and in god taste.
Seems her second was sent after a bad day. I know if I had a rotten day, I sometimes say things that I would not have f I had two hour nap time, or just alone time.
She is right about porn being addictive and with some people, change their view of some one or something that they would not have if they were not exposed to porn.
But the only hate and intolerance I have read are by those that support porn.
Name calling, whining, lying, or just being stupid have seem to come from those that support "freedom of speech" and yet want to shut some one up that doesn't back up narrow mindedness of the left.
Terry
Seems her second was sent after a bad day. I know if I had a rotten day, I sometimes say things that I would not have f I had two hour nap time, or just alone time.
She is right about porn being addictive and with some people, change their view of some one or something that they would not have if they were not exposed to porn.
But the only hate and intolerance I have read are by those that support porn.
Name calling, whining, lying, or just being stupid have seem to come from those that support "freedom of speech" and yet want to shut some one up that doesn't back up narrow mindedness of the left.
Terry
# posted by : 9/21/2008 9:24 AM
: 9/21/2008 9:24 AM
I haven't read any of the other remarks yet, so I very well may be repeating what's already been said. Sorry if this is so.
Ummm...from what I've read and watched from Shelley's website, she definitely DOES NOT blame the industry for initially messing up her and these other girls' lives. She plainly states that involvement in the porn industry adds more problems on top of their initial problems.
As a female, I would find prostitution and having sex on tape (which in my opinion is prostitution since you're getting paid for sex) quite degrading and traumatizing to say the least...not that I've ever tried any of those things, so god forbid if I'm wrong. It just seems like common sense to me that being a sex worker just wouldn't promote mental health.
I also believe it was initially their choice to engage in that life style. Usually they're young and naive with no self-esteem or self-worth what so ever. Somewhere along the way they tend to get trapped in it. This can happen via coercion, especially if the woman is a prostitute(eg gun to the head, threats against her life). Or this could be due to their own addictions, whether it be to money, attention, fame, love hunger, drugs, alcohol, hatred toward men...so on and so on.
She never portrays herself as purely a victim either. She openly admits that she and other sex workers, including porn actresses, hate men and try to get whatever they want from them, usually money or drugs. She says that not only did men abuse her, she abused them as well.
Though I've never been a prostitute, etc, I really feel for these people. I too was molested at a young age. Also, my parents, who are wonderful people, were too occupied with my father's illness to be emotionally available to me. Therefore, I too was starved for attention and let myself be taken advantage of my men in my younger years. I am thankful that I didn't go down that path. I had many supportive people in my life, including God. Without them, I could have become a stripper turned prostitute and perhaps porn star. I don't view myself as "above that." It wouldn't be hard for something like that to happen to someone so young and vulnerable. I'm just glad I'm not so vulnerable anymore.
I also don't think she's judging sex workers; she just wants to help any of them who want out to get out. She's not forcing people to leave obviously. She has an insider's view of how it is and has a compassionate heart.
With this in mind, I could see how she would be viewed as forcing her negative opinions of the porn industry on others, but I just think she feels that strongly against it. She has one of those opinionated personalities. Either take it or leave it. If you don't like what she's saying, don't listen. That's what I do with people who I view as overbearing or ignorant - after defending my point of view first, if appropriate.
If she's making u that angry, maybe u have an issue with something she stands for. Maybe you should examine yourself. Maybe something's going on inside of u that has nothing to do with her.
As for her being a hypocrite, everybody's a hypocrite, from the day they're born to the day they die. It doesn't matter what they are: Christian, Atheist, tribal voodoo healer, or whatever. She does the best she can and truly cares about people, which is more than I can say about most. I like what she's doing, despite her imperfections. She's very brave to do what she does. Anyone who knows about post-traumatic stress knows it would be hard as hell for her to go back to the porn world to reach out to those people.
Ummm...from what I've read and watched from Shelley's website, she definitely DOES NOT blame the industry for initially messing up her and these other girls' lives. She plainly states that involvement in the porn industry adds more problems on top of their initial problems.
As a female, I would find prostitution and having sex on tape (which in my opinion is prostitution since you're getting paid for sex) quite degrading and traumatizing to say the least...not that I've ever tried any of those things, so god forbid if I'm wrong. It just seems like common sense to me that being a sex worker just wouldn't promote mental health.
I also believe it was initially their choice to engage in that life style. Usually they're young and naive with no self-esteem or self-worth what so ever. Somewhere along the way they tend to get trapped in it. This can happen via coercion, especially if the woman is a prostitute(eg gun to the head, threats against her life). Or this could be due to their own addictions, whether it be to money, attention, fame, love hunger, drugs, alcohol, hatred toward men...so on and so on.
She never portrays herself as purely a victim either. She openly admits that she and other sex workers, including porn actresses, hate men and try to get whatever they want from them, usually money or drugs. She says that not only did men abuse her, she abused them as well.
Though I've never been a prostitute, etc, I really feel for these people. I too was molested at a young age. Also, my parents, who are wonderful people, were too occupied with my father's illness to be emotionally available to me. Therefore, I too was starved for attention and let myself be taken advantage of my men in my younger years. I am thankful that I didn't go down that path. I had many supportive people in my life, including God. Without them, I could have become a stripper turned prostitute and perhaps porn star. I don't view myself as "above that." It wouldn't be hard for something like that to happen to someone so young and vulnerable. I'm just glad I'm not so vulnerable anymore.
I also don't think she's judging sex workers; she just wants to help any of them who want out to get out. She's not forcing people to leave obviously. She has an insider's view of how it is and has a compassionate heart.
With this in mind, I could see how she would be viewed as forcing her negative opinions of the porn industry on others, but I just think she feels that strongly against it. She has one of those opinionated personalities. Either take it or leave it. If you don't like what she's saying, don't listen. That's what I do with people who I view as overbearing or ignorant - after defending my point of view first, if appropriate.
If she's making u that angry, maybe u have an issue with something she stands for. Maybe you should examine yourself. Maybe something's going on inside of u that has nothing to do with her.
As for her being a hypocrite, everybody's a hypocrite, from the day they're born to the day they die. It doesn't matter what they are: Christian, Atheist, tribal voodoo healer, or whatever. She does the best she can and truly cares about people, which is more than I can say about most. I like what she's doing, despite her imperfections. She's very brave to do what she does. Anyone who knows about post-traumatic stress knows it would be hard as hell for her to go back to the porn world to reach out to those people.
# posted by : 10/29/2008 9:31 PM
: 10/29/2008 9:31 PM
God Bless Shelley Lubben
You sir are the Hypocrite and saying you are a Christian? Yeah right.
You sir are the Hypocrite and saying you are a Christian? Yeah right.
# posted by : 2/15/2009 10:56 PM
: 2/15/2009 10:56 PM
I'm neither a Christian or a porn star, but I still say: FUCK Shelley Lubben. She is nothing but a manipulative, ignorant, hypocritical dramawhore who uses these porn girls (just like the way the porn industry, she alleges, uses them) to further her own personal agenda as well as attempt to make herself a martyr. Don't buy into her myopic bullshit for even a second.
# posted by : 9/17/2009 3:39 AM
: 9/17/2009 3:39 AM
There is now a STRONG WARNING to people that they "can't be mean to the whores" (or the equivalent on her site. Of course, the men addicted to porn, or the people addicted to drugs etc. you can be mean to them right? but not the ones that sell/sold pussy like Shelley did!!! oh no, we get a STRONG WARNING for that. DOUCHEBAG! I second the nomination.
# posted by : 9/18/2009 5:20 AM
: 9/18/2009 5:20 AM
When has Shelley ever publicly been mean to anyone?? She is trying to help people get out of a situation she was once a part of. She has never been mean to any porn actor. As far as her second e-mail she was just simply saying "listen girl, I know the deal" she is afterall still connected to the industry in a sense so she knows what's going on.
MY GOD have people really been dumbed down so much that they can't see the connection to Taryn being on drugs while she was in the porn industry? Maybe it did not start there, but there it festered.
Do you really think she will go back to the porn industry and remain clean?? Please let's get to drug rehab 101 "people places and things" I am really beginning to wonder if people use even %10 percent of their brain these days. Read between the lines Taryn went to cosmetolgy school (no money) worked in real estate (very volatile career) and was a pharmacy tech. Ok, in which one of those jobs can you make 2500 per day and more.
She went back b/c she is mentally sick and for the money I highly doubt if she is sober, but if she is being in the porn industry will fuel her habit and provide her with the money to feed it.
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MY GOD have people really been dumbed down so much that they can't see the connection to Taryn being on drugs while she was in the porn industry? Maybe it did not start there, but there it festered.
Do you really think she will go back to the porn industry and remain clean?? Please let's get to drug rehab 101 "people places and things" I am really beginning to wonder if people use even %10 percent of their brain these days. Read between the lines Taryn went to cosmetolgy school (no money) worked in real estate (very volatile career) and was a pharmacy tech. Ok, in which one of those jobs can you make 2500 per day and more.
She went back b/c she is mentally sick and for the money I highly doubt if she is sober, but if she is being in the porn industry will fuel her habit and provide her with the money to feed it.
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